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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 29 2018 :  8:23:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha! A perfect ending, or rear ending . . .
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Senior Member

USA
764 Posts

Posted - January 31 2018 :  08:45:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Planning to take the 2.0 on it's first outing, using the Aker belt slide holster, to church tonight. I have been wearing it around the house to break it in. As Evan always says, I will dress around the gun so I can discretely conceal carry the pistol and keep it out of sight. It carries well and is not too difficult to get too for the draw. Finally got my DPX ammo in and will take it out and test fire several rounds of DPX to see if it will shoot it reliably this afternoon.

I will switch my usual EDC (7 shot revolver) to my weak side pocket, but still have it on me for backup. I will say the draw stroke with the belt slide holster is a bit easier than the pocket draw, very much so when seated. I always sit at the back of the auditorium to the right hand side of our entrance doors so my draw stroke will be behind me as I look left toward the doors.

We have a guy who is military, and has sporadically visited our church. He sometimes open carries and our team always gets nervous when they see him. He had a very tight fitting vest on, last Sunday, but you could see the bulge on his hip at the 4:00 "o" clock position. One of our volunteers ushers noticed as he entered the entrance door and came immediately to me and reported that they believed he had a gun. The person he sit down in front of seen the pistol, as he seated himself, and immediate looked back at me and discretely pointed to the gun. I gave her the thumbs up and pointed to my side to let her know I seen the gun.

Open carry or sloppy concealment always scares those around the persons surrounding them. I just don't understand open or sloppy concealed carry guys. Too me, it just looks like he wants to be looked at as "the tough guy" or something. I am not complaining about the usher coming and pointing him out to me because that is what we should do and tell others to be aware also. In this case I have seen the guy previously and talked to him, but the other ushers had not.



I am still waiting on the church leaders to give us the go ahead to have a meeting with our whole adult congregation, too do some informal safety training with them. We have come to the conclusion that we can't afford professional training. The ones we have checked with are in the hundreds of dollars range. By the way I have finally got through to our ushers that when I am not there one of them needs to take my place. I am so glad that we have 3 dependable guys that will do that and so they will not have to depend on me to be the leader. I always inform one of them if I am not going to attend.

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Adj1
Senior Member

USA
507 Posts

Posted - February 07 2018 :  11:20:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW!just the sort of discussion I was looking for! I have been mulling the purchase of a 9mm for some time, to complement my Match Champion.357 Magnum.

I looked at a full sized 2.0 several weeks ago, and it fit my hand better than most guns I have handled. I like it! One problem; the checkering was so sharp, it was painful to grip! This was before the 2.0 Compact was announced.
I figured, if I did buy one, I could always sand the checkering to round off the sharp points some to make it tolerable, or just wait, until the new gun bugs get corrected, like they did with my SW 22, and/or casting molds get a bit worn.

Question: I have read several opinions that the Federal or other 115 gr. standard velocity rounds are very good and reliable... unfortunately, I don't have access to "STOPPING POWER" or "STREET STOPPERS" any more, and can't check it, so How are the newer 124 gr. rounds superior the older 115s? Or are they?

As far as sloppy or open carry is concerned, If there should come trouble, I want the fact I am carrying to be a BIG surprise to my assailant!

Thanx!

Democracy is two coyotes and a sheep debating the dinner menu. Liberty is a well armed sheep, willing to contest the outcome of the vote.

Edited by - Adj1 on February 07 2018 11:23:58 AM
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Ten Driver
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1736 Posts

Posted - February 08 2018 :  01:21:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,

The big difference is that the 124 grain loads generally handle intermediate barriers better than the 115s.

V/R
Mike
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oldmuleskinner
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812 Posts

Posted - February 08 2018 :  02:24:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no problem with open carry when I am camping, at the range, or hiking in the out of doors.

Anyplace else, I think it is stupid.

Like ADJ, I want the fact that I am carrying to big a BIG surprise to whoever needs to see what I am carrying!

Each of us is an innkeeper, and we decide if there is room for Jesus.
Neal A. Maxwell
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Evan
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34190 Posts

Posted - February 08 2018 :  12:05:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Recently horse traded for a full sized M&P 9MM and a new Shield-original version, also in 9MM. Both shoot just fine for me and I carry them both daily.

"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."

Harold B. Lee

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Pop Pop
Senior Member

USA
764 Posts

Posted - February 08 2018 :  3:32:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have really taken a liking to the M P 2.0 9 C. Carried it to church again last evening. Wore a L L Bean long tail flannel shirt. Worked and concealed fine in the Aker Belt slide holster at the 4 PM position.

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pochis
New Member

USA
72 Posts

Posted - February 14 2018 :  4:48:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i will be getting one by the end of the wk, it's on order.
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Pat Taylor
Starting Member

USA
45 Posts

Posted - February 14 2018 :  10:29:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now the bad news....the M&P pistols do have some quirks. I do like the pistols and own several and as far as plastic pistols go they are my choice.

Trigger pulls vary from pistol to pistol on my 2.0s as well as my first gen models. Apex kits give a nice break (for a plastic pistol but not 1911 break) but often require a bit of tuning from time to time to keep them that way. Mine have not been as reliable at setting off rounds as my hammered 1911s , mine have factory striker springs.

On the first gen some slides drop when mag inserted , some do not. I have seen one that could not be dropped pushing down on both right and left slide stop levers at the same time. Some work with a file on the slide stop notch in the slide will fix them.

Mag drop... 1st gen no issues but the 2.0 seems to be held a little tighter on tolerances. Some mags will swell enough when loaded they will not drop free. They measure .006 - .010 wider than the others. Used long enough they do not drop free when empty , have a couple marked to hit on a belt sander but have not tried that yet to see if they stay fixed or swell again. I also load 14 and not 15 rounds , 14 will do it but not as bad as a full 15 rounds.

Accuracy....mine are all .40s and I also have a KKM barrels in .40 and 357sig. I suppose they are about average for plastic pistols and mine shoot about as well as the Glock 35 I had for a while. The 357sig barrel is probably the most accurate MP set up I have. When shooting one next to one of my 1911s there is a noticeable difference in accuracy.

Thumb safety is mushy and easier to move than it should be. It can be stiffened up but still lacking compared to a 1911.

Legal disclaimer....these are only my opinions and your findings may vary. Pistols used are compact , full size and 5" pro 1st gen MPs and 2.0 thumb safety 5 inch models. All in .40 caliber from S&W.

summary....the more I play with plastic the more I like steel.





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