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Russ Larges
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Posted - January 20 2020 :  5:58:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by CW2 Ralph Long

If you are patient, the Remington folks should produce some more of the LHP +Ps soon. They seem to manufacture a couple of cartridge types and bullet weights and then move to some others. It's about time for the Golden Saber 125 grain and the 158 grain LHP's .38 Specials to show up again. If you go to Target Sports USA and SG Ammo websites, they have a place you can get text and email notices when what you are looking for arrives.
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Found some and ordered some from Midway.
Thanks all.
Russ

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Evan
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Posted - January 20 2020 :  5:59:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My first second gun was a round butt Model 36 bought in 1968. I bobbed the hammer, put a Tyler T grip on it and stuffed it with Super Vel. Shot it a lot with supposedly too high pressure loads and it never went out of time. It shot low but at bad breaths distance where most actual shootings start it was doable.

I've got several boxes of or Bon 158 gr lead hp's +P that when it warms up a bit I want to chrono them our of my Model 65.

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Russ Larges
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Posted - January 20 2020 :  6:55:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Evan

My first second gun was a round butt Model 36 bought in 1968. I bobbed the hammer, put a Tyler T grip on it and stuffed it with Super Vel. Shot it a lot with supposedly too high pressure loads and it never went out of time. It shot low but at bad breaths distance where most actual shootings start it was doable.

I've got several boxes of or Bon 158 gr lead hp's +P that when it warms up a bit I want to chrono them our of my Model 65.




Evan, would you run a couple out of a 2", I would like to know if there is any difference between them and the Remington stuff.
Thanks Russ

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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - January 20 2020 :  7:22:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Russ Larges

quote:
Originally posted by Evan

My first second gun was a round butt Model 36 bought in 1968. I bobbed the hammer, put a Tyler T grip on it and stuffed it with Super Vel. Shot it a lot with supposedly too high pressure loads and it never went out of time. It shot low but at bad breaths distance where most actual shootings start it was doable.

I've got several boxes of or Bon 158 gr lead hp's +P that when it warms up a bit I want to chrono them our of my Model 65.




Evan, would you run a couple out of a 2", I would like to know if there is any difference between them and the Remington stuff.
Thanks Russ



I'm not 100% what load Evan has but the Cor-bon 158's I had went 1005 from a friend's 1 7/8" model 442 - it was what one might term "stout" ( I liked that load). It might have actually been labeled +P+ and I think that may be discontinued?

But there may be a new load I have not seen. Buffalo Bore .38 "Heavy duty", which is marked simply +P, also gets over 1000 fps from my 1 7/8" M-36 - which may be a tight gun, could be 50-75 FPS less in a "slower" gun.

I might add though, that 800 to 850 in a 2" would be fine with me.

The Remington 158 +P LHP ("FBI Load) - gets 798 our of a 4" and does not expand in either 4" or 2" - at least not the lot I have - and I bought a whole case of it before testing it The Winchester FBI load only gets a tiny bit more, but it seems to expand in various test mediums - even a little bit in a 2" gun.

Just Ramblin'

Jim H.

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