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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - June 13 2018 :  08:01:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Chris Christian

I have to say something here. I frequently test firearms for NRA Publications. I often take them right out of the box... check them briefly for proper function, look through the bore... and then run a couple hundred rounds through them without pre-shooting lubrication.

I want to see what condition of readiness the factory has sent the gun out in. They are all supposed to be test fired before leaving, and have some level of factory lube. I consider that important YMMV.

If they fail out-of-the-box, then I know short cuts were taken.

After that, if they work, I'll lube 'em up for the rest of the test. But, I want to see what comes out-of-the-box. If it fails then, I don't see any point in wasting time or ammo on it.

And, no. I don't do YouTube, etc. I don't even look at that garbage.







Makes sense Chris.

I'm pretty sure Glock tests guns - a friend (on the forum) who owned a gun shop got one brand new that was fully loaded (round in the chamber) - fortunately his staff was well trained and caught it.

They called the factory and got the answer: "Well that happens now and then."

Nobody's perfect

Jim

PS, I don't know but I'd guess the gun came through a Distributor, who missed the loaded condition - the friend has connections at the factory which is why he called.

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Edited by - Jim Higginbotham on June 13 2018 08:04:32 AM
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LfiGrad
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Posted - June 13 2018 :  12:28:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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PS, I don't know but I'd guess the gun came through a Distributor, who missed the loaded condition - the friend has connections at the factory which is why he called.
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The gun
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Jim, I worked in sales for a gun distributor for ten years. The new guns come in boxes. new models are opened and passed among the sales force for examination and familiarity but other than that they are not checked or boxes opened. Why would they be? They are new guns. They are going to FFLs and it is THEIR job to check everything before retail display.

I'm not saying that an occasional box may indeed be opened now and then, but the distributor is merely the middleman.

On the other hand, used guns (police trades) are examined very closely.



If my only choice was a loaded .25 or an unloaded .45, I would choose the empty .45. They both have the same stopping power, but the empty 1911 looks a lot more convincing and makes a better club.
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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - June 17 2018 :  10:46:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by LfiGrad

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PS, I don't know but I'd guess the gun came through a Distributor, who missed the loaded condition - the friend has connections at the factory which is why he called.


The gun
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Jim, I worked in sales for a gun distributor for ten years. The new guns come in boxes. new models are opened and passed among the sales force for examination and familiarity but other than that they are not checked or boxes opened. Why would they be? They are new guns. They are going to FFLs and it is THEIR job to check everything before retail display.

I'm not saying that an occasional box may indeed be opened now and then, but the distributor is merely the middleman.

On the other hand, used guns (police trades) are examined very closely.



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Yep, that is pretty much how I figure it as well - but I'd still be uncomfortable in assuming the gun in the box had the same serial number as the box - though I do understand that is a lot of boxes to check.

FWIW - I've seen guns and boxes mismatched but I'm not sure where the mistake occurs.

Jim

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Ace
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Posted - June 17 2018 :  2:08:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not distributors, but we've had guns brought into the store as trades, the trader deals with the boss in the office, then the gun--in a box, holster, or bare--is turned over to us clerks for the paperwork; on rare occasion, when we get the gun to put in the book/in stock, we've found them loaded. That mistake is on the boss. I've gotten some good samples of ammo to try that way; I don't normally offer it back to the trader. Ace

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