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LittleBill
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Posted - October 23 2016 :  10:00:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
4949,

No, I'm not in LE; but I think I understand the dynamic you're describing.

I didn't realize I was jumping in on an ongoing conversation. I read your comment about the Legion series, and responded as I did because I'd only heard good things about them. With your report, that's changed. I don't have any problem believing what you're saying; again, sorry if I came across that way.

As far as having a beer together, I'd jump at the chance. I suspect we'd agree on a lot more than we'd disagree about. And I don't have any problem when people I respect take a different viewpoint.

LB

"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis

"There are some ideas so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

Slow Is Smooth, Smooth Is Fast
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4949shooter
Senior Member

USA
584 Posts

Posted - October 23 2016 :  11:04:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds good LittleBill.

And for the record, I know it isn't all Sig guns that are experiencing issues. PASP is happy with their 227's.
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LittleBill
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Posted - October 23 2016 :  11:22:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BatteryOaksBilly

quote:
Originally posted by LittleBill

So, let me see if I've got this straight:

You're suggesting that Sig knows they've made a batch of guns that varies widely in quality and reliability--- since they wouldn't feel the need to hand-pick a suitable test gun, unless they knew that some of their guns were crap.

So they send out the good samples to gun writers.... then sell the rest to the general public; knowing full-well that many of them will disappoint their purchasers, thereby unleashing a torrent of negative comments and reviews; and damaging the Sig reputation in the process...

Is Sig really that greedy and/or stupid--- to take such a shallow, short-sighted view of their own best interest?

Is there no one in Sig management with the good business sense to point out: "Hey guys: we might save some $ and hassle by doing that; but aren't we hurting ourselves in the long run? In the final analysis, wouldn't honesty be the best policy here; even if it means we have to take a short-term financial hit? Does it make sense to risk damaging our reputation--- the one thing that 'money can't buy', that for a long time now has set us apart from so many others---in order to save a few bucks?"

Is Sig really that dumb?


I think this is the new American business scheme. Don't worry about next year, or even next quarter. How can we boost sales THIS week? No longer do companies look to the future, the bottom line has to get better today. I just finished my 50th year of employment with a small company that always planned for Future patient satisfication to drive the future of the company. If they had followed today's business model, I would never have had a job to go to. Those execs at Sig will move quickly on to other jobs in the industry and repeat this because it made money quickly but is a killer long term.

Yep.

That's how the Japanese cornered the TV market: by gambling on the fact that US manufacturers would take a short-term view, and bail after a few quarters of losses.

So the Japanese started selling their TVs on the US market below what it cost them to make: they lost money on every one they sold; and the more they sold, the more $ they lost.

But while this was going on, US manufacturers were selling very few TVs; and losing $ as a result. After one quarter... two quarters... three quarters of losses, they made the decision--- 'smart' in the short term, suicidal in the long run--- to get out of the TV market altogether.

Then--- now that they had the market all to themselves--- the Japanese raised their prices so they were making money again; but now, with no competition. And the rest, as they say, is history....

Stupidity, and lack of foresight, kills... if America does elect Hillary, perhaps our stupidity and lack of foresight will end up killing us too....


"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis

"There are some ideas so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

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Badge
Advanced Member

USA
1648 Posts

Posted - November 14 2016 :  09:26:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Took the repaired Glock to the range and 40 rounds with zero issues. Obviously it needs some more ringing out but I was pleased. A vast improvement over the pre repair weapon.

MSS
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4949shooter
Senior Member

USA
584 Posts

Posted - November 14 2016 :  6:05:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good news Badge. Glad they got it worked out for you.
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4949shooter
Senior Member

USA
584 Posts

Posted - December 28 2016 :  8:05:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got word today regarding our Glock 19 Gen 4 transition.

Just under three thousand guns.

Malfunctions = 0.

Confidence is what you carry.
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Bill_in_PA
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Posted - June 23 2017 :  06:19:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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