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GLV
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Posted - June 17 2005 :  3:22:34 PM  Show Profile  Send GLV an ICQ Message  Send GLV a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Stars must have been in the right positionnice cloudy bright day, gun and chrono worked.

Gun used was a Springfield 38Super/9X23 with 5" barrel.

Cor Bon 9X23 100Gr PB
Hi 1621
Lo 1581
Av 1596
Es 46
Sd 18

Cor Bon 38 Super 100gr PB

Hi 1558
Lo 1540
Av 1549
Es 18
Sd 8

Cor Bon 38 Super 115grJHP +P

Hi 1436
Lo 1402
Av 1419
Es 34
Sd 14

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'The meek will inherit the earth, but only after the last soldier has left it to them in his will'

Edited by - GLV on June 17 2005 5:38:07 PM

Evan
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Posted - June 17 2005 :  3:39:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pleasant to shoot though

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GLV
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Posted - June 17 2005 :  5:40:02 PM  Show Profile  Send GLV an ICQ Message  Send GLV a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Very pleasant, and fast recovery time, in part due to all steel gun.

Could not tell any difference in felt recoil between the three rounds.

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SuperMan
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Posted - July 04 2005 :  9:28:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can add to your list a little....from a 5" GM .38 Super with BarSto barrel. These were cronographed in 1999:

CorBon 125........ 1380 fps

CorBon 115........ 1494 fps (very fast box..3 shots only a 7 fps spread)

Winchester 125 Silvertip... 1260 fps

Remington 115 (no longer available).... 1280 fps (from a 7" SARCO ROTO Forged barrel it did 1365 fps)

Remington 130 FMJ..... 1180 fps

9x23 Winchester from a Super Elite with fitted Colt 9x23 barrel:

125 Silvertip...... 1430 fps

125 White box SP..... 1460 fps


Thanks for the information on the PoweR'Ball ammo. Interesting that the 9x23 and .38 Super are only 50 fps apart. I have been carrying PB in my 1952 Commander for about 2 years but just have not gotten a chance to chronograph it yet. Shot into water filled jugs it expands beautifully. Just yesterday I was able to shoot some 9x23 PB in a Kimber Stainless Target II. Recoil is much more pleasant than 125 SPs. If you are carrying .38 Super PB and reload your own practice ammo, try the 100 grain Barry's Mfg. hollowbase round nose. Loaded with Unique they run about 1400 fps and have the same recoil impulse as the PB and hit to the same POA.

Bob

Edited by - SuperMan on July 04 2005 10:03:55 PM
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Keith
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Posted - July 04 2005 :  9:37:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome aboard, Br'er Bob...nice to have another LEO around.

Keith
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GLV
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Posted - July 04 2005 :  10:00:43 PM  Show Profile  Send GLV an ICQ Message  Send GLV a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
We shot both PBs in jello last year at the H&S--results should be in test bed. we did use two different guns.

My SA has two Nowlin barrels, one in 9MM and the other in 38S/9X23. Jim Garthwaite did the work.

The 9MM PB went out of this gun av 1514, with an SD of 7.

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SuperMan
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Posted - July 04 2005 :  10:16:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only found this board a few weeks ago and was a little too busy until today to do some reading. Sorry for printing the load of Unique used...will not do that again here.

One of my students just bought one of the new Colt Commanders in .38 Super. I bought a Nowlin barrel in 9mm from Brownells and it dropped right in...no fitting, a TIGHT fit and after 200+ rounds zero malfunctions. It will also chamber 9x23 so for less than a grand she has a 3 caliber all ready to go carry gun. She can carry Supers and practice with 9mms...although the 9mm PB doesn't seem to be a slouch as to velocity. I have my old LE carry piece, a S&W 6906, loaded PB/115s down the magazine for my bedroom gun...and don't ask me why it's loaded that way...it just is....

I was lucky enough to be a guest of Bank Miller at the SIG Academy when Evan gave his presentation at the Ammunition Seminar and still have both of his signed books. His observations as to what works on the street and mine run about the same...glad to see there are not "test-tubers" over here....

Bob

Edited by - SuperMan on July 04 2005 10:17:35 PM
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grendelbane
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Posted - July 06 2005 :  12:08:40 PM  Show Profile  Send grendelbane a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Superman notes the 50 FPS difference between the 9x23mm and the .38 Super. My experience is that the difference is some what greater. Perhaps he has a slow 9x23 and a fast .38 Sup barrel, and my barrels are just the opposite.

I used to hot rod the .38 Super when I was young and dumb. Now, I prefer the 9x23mm for that role. It is amazing how blowing one case head can completely change your outlook on a caliber.
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GLV
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Posted - July 06 2005 :  4:40:36 PM  Show Profile  Send GLV an ICQ Message  Send GLV a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I shot both from the same barrel, same day, just a few minutes difference in time--Super was slower, but not enough to be noticeable by a felon, if needed in a self defense situation. :)

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