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Russ Larges
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USA
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Posted - April 02 2018 :  5:13:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a H&R turkey gun with what looks to be a very tight full choke tube in it, I also have a imp. tube to use. While I have heard for years that slugs should not be used in a full choke I wonder if that comes from the old pumkin ball loads. I will cut apart a foster slug and try it in the choke to see if it fits. I would not use a Brenneke slug as they are solid.
Anyone shot slugs in full choke?
Russ

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jle3030
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USA
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Posted - April 02 2018 :  8:27:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have, but only on a limited basis. No apparent harm was done. However when I got the Benelli, I heard that the barrel steel was thinner and the full choke tube should not be used with slugs. So I called the Benelli service department. The rep talked around the point, clearly reluctant to say anything negative about barrel strength. But he finally allowed as how slugs through their full chokes were "probably not the not the preferred choice". So now I keep the Improved Cylinder choke tube screwed in for slugs and shoot Federal Flite Control #00 Buck to tighten the patterns. It works for me.

If I had an IC barrel for the H&R, I think that's what I would use for slugs and general purpose, preserving the extra full choke for the gobblers or long range game birds. That sounds like the best of both worlds.

Jeff


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jlwilliams
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USA
242 Posts

Posted - April 02 2018 :  8:32:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would imagine that the choke wouldn't help accuracy. I'm curious to hear how it works.
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Uncle Mike
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USA
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Posted - April 02 2018 :  9:38:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Benelli states it is unsafe. I was told by a Gunsmith that on some tighter chokes it swages the soft lead in older loads to fit the barrel. Not something I would do. It is unsafe in my opinion , YMMV, regards, Mike

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Arvinator
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USA
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Posted - April 02 2018 :  9:47:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was always told it will "Shoot the choke out" meaning in older barrels with fixed chokes ( NO tubes) it will open up your pattern on bird shot. I was told modified or Improved chokes was the way to go.

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gw
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Posted - April 03 2018 :  09:05:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arvinator

I was always told it will "Shoot the choke out" meaning in older barrels with fixed chokes ( NO tubes) it will open up your pattern on bird shot. I was told modified or Improved chokes was the way to go.



I opened up a full choke barrel to improved with a hone, the chromed bore was almost impossible to cut, hard to imagine a lead slug would "shoot the choke out"

manufacturers say slugs ar safe through any choke, their lawyers would be sure to let us know otherwise.

from the Brenneke web sight

"The purpose of the ribs on the outside diameter of the slug (with the exception of the 3- inch Gold Magnum/Magnum Crush and the all brass Super Sabot which are designed for rifle barrel shotguns only) allows them, unlike most competitors slugs, to be used with any choke. As the slug passes through the three constricted areas, inside of the barrel, the Forcing Cone, Inside Bore, and then the Choke, the excess lead is squeezed into the gaps between the ribs with no damage to the barrel. Somewhat better accuracy may be noted when using the more open choke - Improved Cylinder."

whether you get the best accuracy through a choked tube is another issue....

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fiasconva
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USA
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Posted - April 03 2018 :  3:38:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of the slugs are pretty soft lead and the steel in the barrels is much harder. I think you'd have to shoot a ton of slugs to damage the barrel even in a full choked gun on those older shotguns.

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JD
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USA
105 Posts

Posted - April 03 2018 :  4:08:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a number of boxes of Gualandi slugs loaded by Dan Arms. Excellent and accurate slug load. The boxes are marked: "For cylinder and improved cylinder barrels only.". I don't know if the limitation is due to potential accuracy issues in tighter chokes, or to avoid the potential for swaging open a tight choke....

JD
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Russ Larges
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USA
2235 Posts

Posted - April 03 2018 :  7:48:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I measured the wall thickness, .120, that is a very thick barrel I doubt that it would split. I don't intend to shoot slugs very much in that light of a shotgun so I will switch to the more open choke for them. This will likely be a barn gun with the full choke screwed in.
It is a fun little shotgun and I might try it on the trap field someday.
Russ

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Ace
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USA
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Posted - April 03 2018 :  9:07:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can remember being told over the years that shooting slugs, even soft Fosters, 'a lot' through a full choke could cause the steel in the barrel to stretch--lengthways, as I recall--over time. Dunno what constitutes 'a lot', but I could picture it happening. Back when I shot a lot of slugs, I recall getting less than stellar accuracy from full-choke barrels; then again, my accuracy requirements at the time was basically keeping the shots on a half sheet of typing paper ('typing paper'--see how long ago it was?) at ~25 yards. Ace

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Badge
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USA
1669 Posts

Posted - April 03 2018 :  11:07:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I personally would be hesitant with a " Turkey ", choke. Will a shot here and there damage it. Probable not but if you have the other choke why take the chance. Not sure if a Full choke would be as accurate as a more open one.

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