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Arvinator
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Posted - November 07 2017 :  8:11:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did some recent horse trades & deals bought this today. Nylon butt cuff will be put on, got a affordable scope waiting on a mount and should be a handy rifle for Deer size game and free from evil black rifle haters. Dad has my older Marlin with the standard 20 inch barrel ( I think).
Will start slowly buy ammo for this. I have another 3 years till Trump leaves office I figure.

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LittleBill
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Posted - November 07 2017 :  8:32:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it one of the newer ‘Spikehorn’ (aka ‘youth model’) with a 12” length of pull? Or an oldie-but-goodie?


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Arvinator
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Posted - November 07 2017 :  9:47:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it's the "Youth" with 16.25 inch barrel. 5+1 capacity

Make a handy truck rifle I think

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Ace
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  12:14:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got myself one, added a one-inch rubber butt pad, sling , and ghost ring rear sight. It was wonderful, and it simply adored PPU 150gr SP ammo.
Still don't know why I sold it. Ace

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LittleBill
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  07:02:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rubber butt pad, ghost ring rear sight, sling; to which I’d add, butt cuff with ammo loops. And maybe a Wild West trigger.


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gauchobill
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  07:40:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have one in .35 Remington caliber. Great little rifle for short range (200 yard maximum to me). Have killed several wild hogs with it and it does a great job. I don't own one of the black "assault" rifles because I feel safer with an obvious "hunting" rifle if I need one for self defense. I won't be clearing any buildings of any kind so I don't think I need a 30 round magazine bearing rifle.
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LittleBill
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  07:46:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazon sells a Nohma 1” buffalo-leather sling, supposedly Ahmish handmade, good sturdy sling, looks good on leverguns, $20 + $5 shipping.


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Pop Pop
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  08:20:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Recently gave my Marlin 30 30 youth model to my 9 year old grandson. He has deer hunted, with his dad and friend,for the past 2 years. Had a good shot at a doe last year, but forgot to take the safety off the 20 Ga he was hunting with.

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Ace
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  09:11:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, we need to close this thread. I'm about convinced to go out and get another one, and I can't afford it just now. Plus I don't know where a gun shop is, here in Branson. Ace

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Jim Higginbotham
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USA
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  09:15:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Neato.

I have a 16" Marlin but I had to make it myself. I mounted a Sprinfield '03-A3 rear sight on it - handy little devil.

I would love to have one in .35 Remington!

Jim

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Evan
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  1:17:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been thinking about getting one of these and a 4" N frame .357 to put aside for when the bad new days begin.

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BatteryOaksBilly
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  4:15:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Friends!!!! One on the way..be here Monday. Happy Birthday to ME!!

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LittleBill
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Posted - November 08 2017 :  8:49:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pop Pop

Recently gave my Marlin 30 30 youth model to my 9 year old grandson. He has deer hunted, with his dad and friend,for the past 2 years. Had a good shot at a doe last year, but forgot to take the safety off the 20 Ga he was hunting with.


I realize you were talking about a shotgun safety, but speaking of safeties: Beartooth Mercantile in Montana Wyoming sells an inexpensive ($18) ‘safety delete’ for Marlin lever actions, that eliminates the crossbar safety, which Marlin only started adding in (I believe) 1984.

I realize the liability implications of “he deliberately removed the factory-installed safety device on his rifle!” But for those who preferred the old time-tested, tried-and-true setup.... there is a way to do it.


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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - November 09 2017 :  09:52:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have a Marlin with the safety button but I understand from folks that do have them that there are two fairly easy fixes.

1: Buy a little "O" ring that fits tight over the safety and slide it down to the little groove with the red paint - after installation you cannot press the safety to put it in the "on" position - to me that is the most important thing, that it will not get put on inadvertently).

2: I'm told (and again I don't have one so I cannot confirm) that if you turn the rifle over there is a little set screw that holds the spring and detent for the safety in place - you take an Allen wrench and tighten that up and the safety won't move.

Of course neither of these methods remove the unsightly button if that is the problem then the substitute would be more elegant.

Once again, I'm not making a recommendation that one defeat a safety device, I'm just discussing how one might go about it if he decides it is the best course.

Jim H.

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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - November 09 2017 :  12:38:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks GW, I forgot the little screw is under the stock.

Yeah, I don't like em either - probably for the same reason.

Winchester did modify theirs to a safety on the tang which might be less obtrusive and more natural for someone used to a double barrel shotgun - but I don't like it either and don't own any of the lever guns with a safety - other than a Savage 99 and a Winchester model 88 (both are "hammerless").

My Browning BLR (the later version) has an interesting "safety" - the top of the hammer folds forward to form a block but when you cock the gun or work the lever it automatically disengages.

BTW, on our scouting trip last Tuesday I found an '86 in 38-56. That is a caliber I could like (45-70 necked down to .375) but they wanted $4,000 for it and it was a reblue - not quite willing to go that and I have a .33 WCF '86 made in 1907 anyway - I don't imagine a deer would know the difference and I don't live in bear country.

Jim.

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Ace
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Posted - November 09 2017 :  3:08:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another way to 'defeat' the safety on the Marlin is to decorate it with a leather lace and some colorful beads, or a feather or two. Saw one where a guy did this, he was going for an Indian look for some kind of reenactment outfit. Thinking it over, I decided that for a hunting use, the beads might click against the gun too much, but the feathers could be handy wind-direction detectors. Ace

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LittleBill
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Posted - November 10 2017 :  07:55:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Higginbotham

I don't have a Marlin with the safety button but I understand from folks that do have them that there are two fairly easy fixes.

1: Buy a little "O" ring that fits tight over the safety and slide it down to the little groove with the red paint - after installation you cannot press the safety to put it in the "on" position - to me that is the most important thing, that it will not get put on inadvertently).

2: I'm told (and again I don't have one so I cannot confirm) that if you turn the rifle over there is a little set screw that holds the spring and detent for the safety in place - you take an Allen wrench and tighten that up and the safety won't move.

Of course neither of these methods remove the unsightly button if that is the problem then the substitute would be more elegant.

Once again, I'm not making a recommendation that one defeat a safety device, I'm just discussing how one might go about it if he decides it is the best course.

Jim H.


The safety delete is a steel cylinder that replaces the crossbolt safety and fits flush with the receiver on both sides. It has fake screw slots on either end, I suppose as a ‘disguise’. It’s held in place by the stock safety’s ball-and-set-screw.


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"There are some ideas so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

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jlwilliams
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Posted - November 10 2017 :  10:52:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I came into a Marlin with the safety and there is a really easy fix for those of us raised on the old system. Just ignore the button. I leave it in the "fire" position and either carry chambered and half cocked or empty chamber. Easy and cheap. The gun isn't modified and the feature doesn't slow me down. The price is right too.
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LittleBill
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Posted - November 10 2017 :  6:16:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some folks have had the experience of discovering that their safety— which they had put on ‘fire’— had somehow gotten pushed over to ‘safe’, without their knowing it

Hence the practice of doing something to keep it on ‘fire’ all the time, or replacing it with a safety delete.


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"There are some ideas so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - November 12 2017 :  11:43:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gw

an '86 Winchester is something I'm drawn to, maybe the best lever gun Winchester made, I had 45-70 made in 1921.

I had just moved into a new house out in the woods and didn't bother to put the rifle in fhe safe before I went to work.

a couple of idiots broke in and took every gun not locked up. I know who it was, the sherriff caught them some time later and they were carrying my Browning, the old Winchester was long gone though



I know full well that we cannot shoot people for taking stuff - but I'd sure be tempted to make an exception in that case Some stuff is just irreplaceable.

Mind you I said "tempted" - I think I could resist... but just think, don't know.

Jim H.

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Chris Christian
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Posted - November 12 2017 :  12:40:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Higginbotham

quote:
Originally posted by gw

an '86 Winchester is something I'm drawn to, maybe the best lever gun Winchester made, I had 45-70 made in 1921.

I had just moved into a new house out in the woods and didn't bother to put the rifle in fhe safe before I went to work.

a couple of idiots broke in and took every gun not locked up. I know who it was, the sherriff caught them some time later and they were carrying my Browning, the old Winchester was long gone though



I know full well that we cannot shoot people for taking stuff - but I'd sure be tempted to make an exception in that case Some stuff is just irreplaceable.

Mind you I said "tempted" - I think I could resist... but just think, don't know.

Jim H.



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Ace
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Posted - November 12 2017 :  1:28:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes 'oversized' deputies are the best ones.

Sometime back, a guy came in with a neat old Hi Standard .22 semiauto, in an well-worn leather holster. Told me he had lost it in a home burglary something like 30 years ago. Just recently it had been found in a drug raid in Montana. After everything was done, he was given the opportunity to get it back. Said the gun and holster are still in pretty much the same shape they were when they were stolen.

To stay on topic, I had a couple of occasions with my little Marlin where the safety got moved from 'off' to 'on', I think from being laid on something behind the truck seat. It can happen. Ace

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LittleBill
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Posted - November 12 2017 :  1:52:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Higginbotham

quote:
Originally posted by gw

an '86 Winchester is something I'm drawn to, maybe the best lever gun Winchester made, I had 45-70 made in 1921.

I had just moved into a new house out in the woods and didn't bother to put the rifle in fhe safe before I went to work.

a couple of idiots broke in and took every gun not locked up. I know who it was, the sherriff caught them some time later and they were carrying my Browning, the old Winchester was long gone though



I know full well that we cannot shoot people for taking stuff - but I'd sure be tempted to make an exception in that case Some stuff is just irreplaceable.

Mind you I said "tempted" - I think I could resist... but just think, don't know.

Jim H.


That was my reaction too when I read gw’s post. In the old West, they hung people for rustling cattle and stealing horses.... and that seemed to work out OK....


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"There are some ideas so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

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Malcolm
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Posted - November 12 2017 :  6:30:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While doing some genealogy on my direct blood kin, I came across a Federal indictment specifically mentioning my great-great-great grandfather as being the head of an organized group of horse thieves in Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas. Might be why he and his two brothers relocated to Texas as part of the original Texas 300” families. I do not have an affinity for horses, however, the thought of frontier justice for thieves in general, at times, is, rather appealing.

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Uncle Mike
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Posted - November 14 2017 :  09:23:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, there is a gel test of the .357 magnum through a 16" inch carbine over on "The GunBlog". This maybe of some interest to some. There is also a training film from WW II on shooting enemy aircraft from a Flying Fortress. Very cool, regards, Mike

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Pop Pop
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Posted - November 14 2017 :  2:53:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
U M, guy said the 16" brl really woke up the 357 round. Interesting. Wonder what DPX would do out of the 16" carbine? Don't have gel, but plan to compare DPX in Water jugs soon. DPX Works great, and penetrates well out of my 2" and 4" revolvers.

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