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jle3030
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  11:02:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are tactical/fighting canes still making it through TSA, courthouse, and similar security screening? They're kinda obvious to a trained eye. Just checking, because my back and hip are getting to the point where I'm actually starting to use my CaneMasters for its "ostensible" purpose.

Jeff

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Chris Christian
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  11:42:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jle3030

Are tactical/fighting canes still making it through TSA, courthouse, and similar security screening? They're kinda obvious to a trained eye. Just checking, because my back and hip are getting to the point where I'm actually starting to use my CaneMasters for its "ostensible" purpose.

Jeff



Don't know. But I think an accompanying letter from your doctor would go a long way in getting it through. If he deems it a 'medical necessity' I would think they would have a hard time refusing it. JMHO.

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Malcolm
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  12:36:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few birthdays back, my brother gifted me MY "tactical cane", a very simple hardwood (hickory) cane with a rubber crutch tip. I use it like my old "straight baton", from the good old days, and have never ever been questioned on its usage, in any courthouse, (Fed and local), or via the TSA monkeys when flying.
I DO get to board first when flying, so, it always goes in the flights with me.
Yeah, it does work well both as a can and "balance device", as well as a personal protection tool.

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RLS
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  12:45:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't had any problem taking my City Stick through security at the courthouse, TSA at the airport or cruises.

A flight attendant did cop an atitude with me about it on a flight. She didn't like the idea of me holding the cane between my legs. The FA wanted in an overhead bin or along the wall at the window seat. I told her I needed the cane. It made no impact on her, she insisted it had to be in one of those two places. I put it overhead.


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Evan
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  1:37:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Cold Steel cane has made it thru security and rides next to my seat without any drama from the fight crew.

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LittleBill
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  3:53:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ditto my Irish blackthorn cane. I've taken it on planes, and recently into a courthouse.

It used to be the case that airline regs prevented anyone from taking away a cane from someone who needed it. No medical documentation required. Has that changed?


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Edited by - LittleBill on August 12 2017 5:21:31 PM
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LittleBill
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  3:55:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RLS

I haven't had any problem taking my City Stick through security at the courthouse, TSA at the airport or cruises.

A flight attendant did cop an atitude with me about it on a flight. She didn't like the idea of me holding the cane between my legs. The FA wanted in an overhead bin or along the wall at the window seat. I told her I needed the cane. It made no impact on her, she insisted it had to be in one of those two places. I put it overhead.


Rick


Maybe you just didn't strike her hard enough with it?


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Edited by - LittleBill on August 12 2017 4:18:56 PM
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LittleBill
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  4:06:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jle3030

Are tactical/fighting canes still making it through TSA, courthouse, and similar security screening? They're kinda obvious to a trained eye. Just checking, because my back and hip are getting to the point where I'm actually starting to use my CaneMasters for its "ostensible" purpose.

Jeff


quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm

A few birthdays back, my brother gifted me MY "tactical cane", a very simple hardwood (hickory) cane with a rubber crutch tip. I use it like my old "straight baton", from the good old days, and have never ever been questioned on its usage, in any courthouse, (Fed and local), or via the TSA monkeys when flying.
I DO get to board first when flying, so, it always goes in the flights with me.
Yeah, it does work well both as a can and "balance device", as well as a personal protection tool.


I too prefer a 'regular' hardwood cane over a 'tactical' cane for that very reason: the former just makes you look like an old hobbler, while the latter might draw unwanted attention to you if someone recognizes it for what it is.

Even when the TSA monkey is wrong, you're still on a tight schedule, not in a position to stand there arguing with them. Best not to give them any 'reason' for messing with you.


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Edited by - LittleBill on August 12 2017 4:20:47 PM
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Ace
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Posted - August 12 2017 :  7:01:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The brother has a hobby of making walking sticks out of various types of wood, as in from saplings and branches off of trees, even grape vines (he'd love to have some of that blackthorn material). They're really pretty, unique and individual, and most could easily substitute for a 'tacticool' Mall-Ninja/Keyboard Kommando/Chairborne Ranger model--and they cost less, too. Seems it would be really hard for a Arby's reject (TSA-Too Stupid for Arby's) to object to it.
I have some walnut and mulberry that needs trimmed. I think I'll give him some that is five or six feet long, have him make me a 'Moses stick'. That might have some trouble getting through the checkpoint...Ace

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Edited by - Ace on August 12 2017 7:03:00 PM
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gauchobill
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Posted - August 13 2017 :  09:46:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would opt for one made of hickory--it is harder, more dense, and durable!
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gw
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Posted - August 13 2017 :  09:59:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TSA maintains the discretion to scan/inspect mobility aids like canes.

"fighting canes" have distinct characteristics easily recognized by an informed inspector. depends on local rules whether these are allowed in public.

sharpened crooks, rounded tips, cord wrapping, finger grooves etc. are giveaways

a perscription from a doctor is a plus and might move to the front of the line

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Bill D
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Posted - August 13 2017 :  9:26:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess the one I have with the sword in it will raise the ire at the airport. When out of country with it and walking in an unsavory area it seems the local baddies knew what it was and were reluctant to request my spare change. Have to look for some other useful cane..Bill

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Olddog84
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Posted - August 14 2017 :  1:03:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have 2 nice hardwood sticks that were made from trees removed from the Gettysburg battlefield as they culled trees to make the terrain more true to the battle. One is "cane" length and the other is "Moses" length. I don't use them all the time, but when I do need them nobody has questioned them.

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hopleyyeaton
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Posted - August 15 2017 :  2:11:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On my last visit to the local Federal Building for ID update they asked me to put my plain wood cane through the scanner if I could walk without it, but never questioned it. Took it that day knowing my gun(s) and knife had to stay locked in the car in the parking garage across the street and I'm too old to fight some young yahoo bare handed.
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jimmylee
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Posted - August 15 2017 :  6:52:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can probably find a good hardwood cane at your local farm and ranch store. They are useful to aid walking or moving livestock around the corral.
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WR Moore
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  10:31:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately, many of the canes now readily available seem to either be flimsy aluminum or some clone of balsa wood. I guess the aged & decrepit don't have the strength to handle a cane that might actually support them. That includes the local rural stores.

Museum Replicas used to have dynawood staffs, you could cut one down. I got a wood cane from Cold Steel long ago when I thought I was facing knee surgery. Turned out I didn't need surgery, but it's come in handy quite a few times. Wish they still did those wood canes.

Waaay back in college the Dean of Men was a cane collector and used them daily. One day in the student union a buddy and I were sitting at the next table and were fascinated by the carved cane he had. He told us to go ahead and look at it and told us where he got it (can't recall-somewhere in the far east). The carving was gorgeous, but I was fascinated by a couple brass inserts. After a bit of wiggling, I discovered it was a sword cane. The blade appeared to be from one of those triangular Limey bayonets of days long gone. The Dean was quite surprised, he allowed he had several sword canes, didn't know that was one.

While I was still working, we had a gent run one of the Cold Steel City Sticks through the X-Ray. I'd watched him walk up and looked at the wear pattern on his shoes. I politely suggested that he leave the cane in his car thereafter, unless he had a Doctor's letter. Never saw the stick again for the 3 months he was there. I was old enough to know you might not need the stick just this minute, but there was just something...............

Edited by - WR Moore on September 16 2017 10:37:15 AM
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gw
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  10:57:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if you ever take a look at stick/ cane fighting techniques you can quickly pick out canes setup for fighting on the street

myself i watch people walking around with sticks, I saw a few yesterday driving through the local rough neighbourhood.


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LittleBill
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  11:19:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume if you have a letter from your doctor, no one would be able to stop you from carrying a cane, even a 'fighting cane'. Of course, that wouldn't include sword canes.


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Edited by - LittleBill on September 16 2017 11:19:57 AM
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gw
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  11:25:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's like open carry

when I see a healthy man strutting around with a cane the weight of a ball bat I pay attention


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Malcolm
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  11:55:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My "strutting" days are long over, especially after the recent total knee replacement. Now, it's the Malcolm and Gimpy show...with my non-tacticool hardwood cane, and my modified wobble-hobble.

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LittleBill
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  12:57:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Malcolm, how are you getting on? What are the new bionic knees like, as compared to your 'old' ones before the replacement? Are you glad you did it?

I ask, because I'm sure at some point I'll be needing to do the same.


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RLS
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  5:35:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gw

it's like open carry

when I see a healthy man strutting around with a cane the weight of a ball bat I pay attention





I happen to have an "Original Baseball Bat Cane". It says "Louisville Slugger" on the barrel. It came inscribed with my name on it. My mother gave it to me one year for my birthday. It resides close at hand hanging in the family room.

I don't think I fit rightly into healthy man strutting around. My health isn't that good and I don't strut.

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silverback
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  8:13:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was in O.C. Courthouse last week with mine no problem.
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Ben B.
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Posted - September 16 2017 :  11:02:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I needed a cane after knee surgery. I picked up a Bubba Stik, hardwood capped with a brass hame from a mule harness. It's nice & hefty and classy, except for the "Bubba Stik" burned on the side.

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revjen45
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Posted - September 17 2017 :  11:45:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a Moses stick that gets favorable comment every time I take it out in public. I also carry the prescription for a cane in case I have to present some valid reason why I am unsteady on my feet. As far as weapons go it would make a pretty good whackin' stick but if I need a weapon my EDC sidearm beats the staff. Then again, a handgun doesn't work real well in helping me maintain balance.

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LittleBill
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Posted - September 17 2017 :  12:26:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by revjen45

I have a Moses stick that gets favorable comment every time I take it out in public. I also carry the prescription for a cane in case I have to present some valid reason why I am unsteady on my feet. As far as weapons go it would make a pretty good whackin' stick but if I need a weapon my EDC sidearm beats the staff. Then again, a handgun doesn't work real well in helping me maintain balance.


True--- although you can fire a quick shot or two into the ground when you start to tip over, using the recoil impulse to right yourself--- it's probably not a technique you should rely on....


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"There are some ideas so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

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Edited by - LittleBill on September 17 2017 12:27:34 PM
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