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CW2 Ralph Long
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Posted - February 10 2017 :  1:39:35 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CW2 Ralph Long's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Am toying with another suspect idea. I have a Ruger LCR 9mm and really enjoy shooting it. The Ruger moon clips work great. I have always wanted a semi-serious 9mm revolver to have when they finally pull an "Australia" on us and tell us we can't have semi-autos. The S&W 547s are going for well over $1100. Since the S&W 547 extractor system precludes use of moon clips, the old HKS loaders are the only reliable quick reload. They are bringing $50+ a piece. There are some nice looking Ruger Speed Sixes available in the $725 to $875 range.

Anyone out there have experience with the Speed Six in 9mm? What do you think about it....besides I'm crazy for thinking about buying a revolver that sells for twice what a Law Enforcement Glock 19 costs? Do the Ranch Product Moon Clips work as good on the Speed Six as they do on my S&W Model 22 .45 ACP? Just looking for someone to tell me they wished they'd sold theirs way back when the only brought $350.

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if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

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Uncle Mike
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Posted - February 10 2017 :  2:59:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Ralph, I shot one 20 years ago and was told it was intended for the French Police. I don't know if this is true or not. I found it a nice shooter, accurate and low recoiling,for me. We were shooting surplus 9mm. I never saw the point and I would hesitate chasing one. The "Blue Book" says stainless steel 100% is $650 but the blue is $400 in the same condition. I like the idea of the "Blackhawk convertible 38/357 with an extra 9mm cylinder. Life is too short not to have the weapon you need/want, regards, Mike

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Jim Higginbotham
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USA
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Posted - February 11 2017 :  12:11:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boy to I feel stupid... not an unfamiliar feeling.

The wife and I were on a road trip a few years ago and when we stopped for a burger in Sommerset, Ky. I noticed a pawn shop next door.

They actually had several interesting guns one of which was a Ruger Speed Six 9mm with a 2.5" barrel - it was $250.

I did not buy it though I thought to myself that it was a pretty rare gun.

I regretted the decision when we were about 50 miles away but I did not go back

Jim

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Ace
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Posted - February 11 2017 :  2:00:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally, I'd rather have the more common .357 model for everyday use. The 9mm would be neat just to have, but if the fan ever got dirty enough to really need it all the time, staying supplied with the moon clips could cause extra hassle. If I just had to have the 9mm version, I'd lay in a big stock of the clips.
The Speed Six would be a great gun to have, in either caliber. Ace

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esq_stu
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USA
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Posted - February 11 2017 :  7:56:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had two of them (at two different times). They are ok. That's all. I sold them. They sat in the safe. Too heavy to carry given their capacity. Any Glock is easier to shoot and weighs far less for the number of rounds.

I still have a bunch of half moon clips for them.

Kol Tuv (All the best!)

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Dov
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Posted - February 12 2017 :  1:09:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ralph, any chance you've run carry loads over chronograph from your 9mm LCR?

Have you tested to see if it will headspace & fire without moonclip, like emergency reload from a pistol mag? I realize ejector star won't work without moonclip.

I'd also appreciate any more detail you'd care to share about it, holsters grip (Crimson Trace?), etc.

I only use a few handgun calibers: 9mm, 10mm, 38/357, 44 spec/mag

But the woman in my life only likes Pistols, she finds Revolvers distracting or something (the cylinder rotation somehow) though she's a very accurate slow fire shooter.

So having a 9mm snubby would simplify logistics when traveling together, all her carry guns are 9x19 except for her 380 LCP pocket pistol.

But I use both 9mm & 38/357 for CCW, I do use G26 for pocket carry but my airweight J frame 38 is used for specific roles where the G26's are poor fit. Suspect LCR would work as well as the j frame.

Think airweight is couple oz lighter than 9mm LCR other than that think they'd be equivalent for my uses, though +P 9mm is much better IMVHO than +P 38

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CW2 Ralph Long
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Posted - February 13 2017 :  10:36:39 AM  Show Profile  Click to see CW2 Ralph Long's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Dov,

I love the little LCR9. My wife, who is pretty much a Sig fan, likes it, too. I only chronographed one load, the Federal 124 HST (+p). It averaged just over 1070 fps. That is about 10 fps faster than my LC9s produces with the same load. (Check "Mouse Gun Addict/Pocket Guns and Gear"; they did a great review of the LCR9 and chronographed several loads.) I want to chronograph the Corbon 9mm Urban Defense 100 grain +p when I get the battery lead soldered back into place. The revolver is more comfortable to shoot the +P Federals through due to the super grip Ruger uses on its little revolvers. I have a shrouded Colt Agent that I carried as a BU gun in my police days. Wish I'd had the LCR9. The clips (I only use Ruger's) are a perfect fit. Two 5 round clips take up the space of one HKS speed loader/with .38 spls. in my pocket. If you want extra, Cheaper than Dirt had them for $10.97/3clips last week; the shipping was $6.38 and I added several speed loaders, etc. to the order for the same shipping. Though I usually shove the gun in a jacket pocket in cold weather, the Galco Pro 286 is a good pocket holster that is perfect for hiding the outline of the gun in church or elsewhere. Oh yeah, I definitely agree that you are getting much improved energy delivery to the target from a 9mm than from any .38 Spl. +p of the same weight. Will stop rambling, hoping I answered a couple of questions.

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

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Dov
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Posted - February 13 2017 :  2:02:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks!
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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - February 14 2017 :  08:23:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a 640 .357. It has a 2.25" barrel. I also have a 940 (9mm J-frame) it has a 2" barrel (as opposed to the normal 1 7/8" on a .38 J-frame).

Remington 125 JHP .357 full power loads get right at 1250 fps in the 640. Winchester 127 Ranger gets 1225 in the 940.

The only difference is that the 9mm is much quieter and has less flash.

That said, I sorta like .38/.357s a little better better since I can load up to 200 grains (not the old factory load - that won't scratch paint). Not that I use 200 all that much but I really do like the 173 LSWCHP at around 950 to 1000 fps.

Then again I'm weird - name your own poison.

Jim H.

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Uncle Mike
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Posted - March 01 2017 :  09:35:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Simpson Ltd has a SMITH & WESSON 547 in 9mm. It's over $1000 so it's not cheap. A very rare revolver I believe, regards, Mike

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage"...Thucyides

"War is sweet to those who do not know it."...Erasmus
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Gerald
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Posted - March 15 2017 :  8:07:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had a 547 and a ruger speed six in 9mm.The smith had a 3 inch barrel and the ruger had the 2.75 in barrel. I really liked the k framed smith for carry but it had a heavier trigger pull than I liked and I was advised it really couldn't be altered much due to the second pin in the frame that as I understood it kept the 9mm casing from backing out of the cylinder. The speed six was heavy as someone above noted and I traded it for a Kimber Pro Carry due to a need at the time. I really wanted both guns to grow on me past the initial "new" to me factor but when it didn't work out.

Edited by - Gerald on March 15 2017 8:10:40 PM
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CW2 Ralph Long
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Posted - April 08 2017 :  08:59:46 AM  Show Profile  Click to see CW2 Ralph Long's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well, Lads, I did it. I found an excellent Stainless Ruger Speed Six, 2.75" on Gunbroker and bought it..... at not so excellent a price. I have enjoyed shooting it and won't part with it until my will is read. I did test three +P+ loads over a chronograph. The results are posted at Speed Trap. I'm pleased to report that the results are very similar to those I've obtained with my Glock 19 and Sig 226 DAK. There's plenty of velocity to produce expansion. The heavy rascal feels like my Model 10 firing .38 Spl. standard velocities.

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Winston Churchill
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