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Arvinator
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USA
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Posted - November 23 2011 :  5:13:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While at wallyworld I saw one being shown to a man. I was asked by the clerk if this was a good choice for a lady to have loaded with buckshot for a older lady. I told them I really could not say, but it looked nice.
Thoughts? Could it work for a older woman or useless? Thanks for any replies...

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Evan
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Posted - November 23 2011 :  6:18:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
trigger pull on the one's I've tried have been heavy and uneven.

frankly, I wouldn't own one.

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gw
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3983 Posts

Posted - November 23 2011 :  6:32:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my brother bought one for his wife, testing it with buckshot and various "self defense".410 ammo we thought it was mostly useless.

patterned terribly and wasn't much good beyond a few feet in our view. his was somewhat useable with .45 Colt ammo if you want an oversized 5 shot .45 with mediocre accuracy.

the one good thing, it was easy to resell, seems everyone wants one.

I'ld get grandma a .410 pump if she wants a small shotgun

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Uncle Mike
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USA
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Posted - November 23 2011 :  6:36:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, the more I see of Taurus the less I like. I dislike the balance or lack of, in the Judge. As gw states they sure are popular. Regards, Mike

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Arvinator
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USA
5252 Posts

Posted - November 23 2011 :  6:38:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks. I hope the man does not get one...Hate to see money spent in a unwise manner on such a serious issue.

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gauchobill
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1036 Posts

Posted - November 23 2011 :  7:19:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had the stainless steel, expensive long bbl model. It was a hunk of junk. At 15 yds off a bench rest it would shoot a pattern the size of a basketball with any brand of .45 Colt I tried in it. It is bulky, awkward, and heavy. For self protection, ANY reliable semi-automatic handgun of any caliber from 9mm to .45 ACP would provide more reliable security than the Taurus Judge. If the older woman can't work the slide on a semi-auto, tell her to get a .38 special six shooter and learn how to use it with +P ammo and she will be better off.
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BobK
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USA
1983 Posts

Posted - November 23 2011 :  8:26:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Local gunshop ordered and recieved 10 of them.8 went back to Taurus for repairs.

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enidpd804
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1758 Posts

Posted - November 23 2011 :  9:51:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Taurus Judge is my favorite defensive handgun...to disparage. A co-worker brought one out to the range the other day. Recoil is stout and its effectiveness is questionable, as far as I'm concerned. The three pellet groups were anywhere from 8-12 inches at five yards.

Warren
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sheepdog
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382 Posts

Posted - November 23 2011 :  11:08:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...for a youth or lady as home defense, you'd be hard pressed to top a .20 ga. youth model pump in a good brand...cut the barrel to 18 1/2 and snap on a Raybar-type front sight...easily handled by all but the most frail...plenty of power...

....410 is marginal for anti-personnel use...when the plan is to STOP hostile activity, you need a bit more punch...
...I think all the Judges are of the Federal quality...nuff said...
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Muleskinner
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USA
818 Posts

Posted - November 27 2011 :  11:33:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't see much realistic use for one. For snakes, any of the revolver or pistol shot loads would work as well at the distance one would normally be shooting a snake. For SD, it would rank near the bottom of my list of guns to carry. It sure does have a lot of appeal to the uninformed who see it as some sort of hand cannon.

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Ace
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USA
5046 Posts

Posted - November 28 2011 :  12:27:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Judge is one of the saddest successful marketing ploys ever foisted on the gun crowd. Too many stories of their drawbacks to print in a book. The most common I hear is lack of penetration by shot-shells (as in five feet from a water-filled plastic pop bottle, two or three or four pellets make it inside). Not even a good rabbit gun. .410 in any configuration is not a viable load for self-defense purposes, and the gimmick loads with little 'discs' and a couple of pieces of shot, or three or four buckshot pellets, belong in the same glass case with the Judge--a display of stupid ideas. (I'm not a fan, can you tell?)

If a .410 is the heaviest shotgun one can handle for defensive purposes, one would be better served with a .30 Carbine--better ballistics, a lot more rounds available, and recoil at a level virtually identical to, if not less than, a .410.

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Pitbull
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2011 Posts

Posted - November 28 2011 :  2:01:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll add my 2 cents as well. A good quality new or used revolver loaded with a good .38 spl. JHP load like CorBon DPX might be the ticket for an elderly lady. Simplicity and not alot of bells and whistles.

For a home shotgun, again simplicity. A youth model size 20 ga. double barrel. Easy to load and unload and eliminates the short stroke or jam factor.

Add to this some good basic training and shooting skills and an elderly lady could be far from defenseless. The training and shooting skills along with proper mindset need to be part of the whole package.

Edited by - Pitbull on November 28 2011 2:07:53 PM
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Biggfoot44
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Posted - December 02 2011 :  11:14:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Judge would be just as good for a woman as for a guy. If you just had to use a .410 for SD , this would make those Mossberg .410s with the front pistol grips, and funny looking muzzle thing seem worthwhile by comparison.
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Olddog84
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USA
598 Posts

Posted - December 05 2011 :  1:26:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am with all of you, I think the Judge is one of the dumbest ideas to ever come down the firearms pike. That being said I wish I had thought of it, because Taurus is making a ton of money on that dog. Why the ignorant think that it becomes the equivalent of a 12 GA shotgun mystifies me. I had a friend who thinks he is a gun guy but is really just a survivalist with too much money and not enough sense extoll its wonder to me. This is the same idiot who always disparaged the 9mm. I told him that the ballistics of his .410 buckshot load compare to 32ACP ball. I said so you are willingly carrying a 20-shot 32acp and counting on triple-tapping each target? To which he said, well I can load it with 45 colt! And I replied, well then get an N-frame, you get an extra shot and it doesn't look like garbage. He gave up, as i obviously didn't "get it." Proof positive that a fool and his money are willingly parted.

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Reloader
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Posted - December 05 2011 :  4:45:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It should come with a little red wagon for a holster..as dumb in my opinion as the 2" S&W 500 magnum.

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rev.
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946 Posts

Posted - December 26 2011 :  1:46:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A friend of mine has one, and I found it fun to shoot, but then I find most anything that goes "bang" fun to shoot. But every time I start to get the itch to have one of my own, I read what you guys have to say and get cured, at least for a while, and then I have to read your thoughts over again.....thanks!
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Malcolm
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USA
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Posted - December 26 2011 :  3:20:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
have a neighbor that purchased a S&W"Governor" that Was fortunate enough to shoot. thought it was a piece of crud, and horribly inaccurate. my older brother wants to sell his SIG 226 to get himself a "Judge", frankly, I think he's making a horrible mistake.

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Biggfoot44
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Posted - December 28 2011 :  1:24:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well one of them could make an interesting mini shotgun .... if you went NFA, smoothbore, little bit of jug choking, and then you might extend the useful range as a rat gun to the better part of 50 feet.

But the primary redeming factor is that these .45/.410s have stimulated a new generation of defensive .45LC bullets/ loaded rounds ( Gold Dot, PDX ). Of course I'd be using them in a BlackHawk 3.5in , but still.
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