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Evan
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 Posted - March 02 2008 : 3:26:46 PM
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| again, you need to check what works in your indivdual gun-there are no guarantee's |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
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chp5
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Posted - March 02 2008 : 4:59:35 PM
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Originally posted by Evan
again, you need to check what works in your indivdual gun-there are no guarantee's
Absolutely - words to live by . . .
Does anyone know if the Glokc "fix" made NYPD satisfied? |
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Evan
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Posted - March 03 2008 : 06:21:30 AM
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| they still approve them-NYPD does not an have issue gun-they have an approved list and officers buy there own gun. |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
Harold B. Lee
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Goodtime Charlie
Starting Member
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Posted - March 03 2008 : 5:42:52 PM
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Evan:
I have been trying to decide between a G19 and a G26 for CCW. I understand that you prefer the G19. Considering that the G19 has a full size grip, I prefer it too. But I'm thinking that the G26 provides more carry options since it is smaller. As far as grip size goes, when it is possible to carry a longer grip, one could simply insert the longer G19 magazine. I realize the grip feel would be different from the G19, but it would give the G26 the extra length for the fingers. In view of the multiple length magazines option, I have tentatively decided in favor of the G26, since it's grip can be made longer with longer mags, but the G19 cannot be made shorter. Does this make sense, or is there another factor that I have not considered here? |
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
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JohnS
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Posted - March 03 2008 : 6:04:34 PM
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| I'm not Evan (lucky for him) but for almost all applications the 19 is "small enough". |
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Goodtime Charlie
Starting Member
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Posted - March 03 2008 : 6:23:32 PM
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What is the advantage of shortening a G19 grip to G26 length? I don't understand what you mean by "it was really a little slicker than a G26". I take it that your shortened G19 would accept G26 mags? Why not just buy the G26 and not bother shortening the grip? I don't understand something here... |
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
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michaelo
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 09:48:14 AM
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Seems to be a gremlin that pops up from time to time in G19s of any generation since it first popped up in 1996, w and w/o all the mods (through to K guns, w and w/o angled slide/extractors, w and w/o "1" on bbl, etc), w various types/brands of ammo.
Know a guy whose new G19 did it several times in the first 3K rounds. He replaced just about every part, still did it. Three (!) trips to Glock, still did it. That was in 2002. He traded it for another gun w full disclosure.
A local cop had it happen to his trusty G19 w Fed 115 +P+ 9BPLE during Q in 2003. Had never happened before in about 20K rounds w that ammo and other cheap FMJ, never happened since w about another 20K rounds of same ammo. He didn't change/fix anything, just shrugged and said stuff happens. Or not.
Never happened to any of the G19s I've had since 1989 (several). I could worry about it, but I don't. |
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Evan
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 09:58:39 AM
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we need to remember we could grab two Glock 19's that came out of assembly together and find that one loved Win ammo and the other hated it.
for years I looked for a Smith 1955 Target, 6 1/2 barrel .45 ACP/AR. Back then we could not carry auto pistols and I wanted a .45 ACP. Had planned to carry Super Vel jhp, but the gun would only "pattern" with any load except 230gr fmj-with hardball it was a tack driver but I have no more faith in .45 fmj that I would in 9MM fmj. Tried a bunch of handloads with dismal results. Traded the gun off and forgot about it.
As long as we remember that the same model can show widely divergent preferences we'll be fine. |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
Harold B. Lee
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Doc Lee
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USA
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 4:48:30 PM
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| Evan, the forcing cone angle on S&W Revolvers were often 11 degrees which worked fine for wad cutter loads. The 18 degree angle works best with Jacketed loads. At times there was some degree of cylinder size drift that could cause patterning in S&W Revolvers. |
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Arvinator
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 5:19:48 PM
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| Has anyone heard of any problems with the GLOCK 19 not liking the Federal 124 grain +P HST rounds? I am about to test a few for carry in my model 19 (Older frame style, serial# BCL###) for off duty use...Thanks. |
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Evan
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 5:31:45 PM
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| you have to check your gun to see what it likes or doesn't-its that simple and that frustrating |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
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Gearhead Jim
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USA
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 7:50:49 PM
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Third generation G19's have a slight barrel redesign that requires using newer mags. Older mags will occasoinally (100-200 rds for my two guns) stub a JHP round into the bottom of the feed ramp. Newer mags have a small "4" or higher on the top of the follower, and the right side of the mag does not have a "step" on the outside. It's actually the mag body that makes the difference, it presents the cartridges higher onto the feed ramp. RN will work fine with any mags.
Much cheaper to buy new mags than to do enough testing to find out if maybe you got lucky and your new gun will work with old mags. Of course as Evan says, you still need to test each gun/mag/ammo combination. |
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SJC3081
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USA
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 8:08:56 PM
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| What ever load use choose I would shoot 200 rounds to test for reliability. If your breech face is cut at 90 degrees send it for a upgrade. www.thegunzone.com/glock/breechface.html |
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Arvinator
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USA
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Posted - March 08 2008 : 02:07:53 AM
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| Thanks for your answers. I bought several boxes to test and practice with, I will have to check on any needed upgrades. |
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wolfgang2000
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USA
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Posted - March 08 2008 : 12:50:38 PM
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My original G19 is a older 19. (it only has 2 letters in front of three numbers in the serial number.) It's been 100%. I have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation magazines, and it likes them all.
I guess my question is should I bother with a upgrade? |
“The key is to hit them hard, hit them fast, and hit them repeatedly. The one shot stop is a unit of measurement not a tactical philosophy.” Evan Marshall |
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SJC3081
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USA
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Posted - March 08 2008 : 5:15:20 PM
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| I would say if your pistol works be grateful and hang on to it. If it isn't broke don't fix it. |
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Speer GDHP 124+p in a Glock 19
