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Brandon B
Starting Member
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 Posted - February 13 2008 : 3:19:05 PM
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| I saw this lame video of a guy showing what seems to be a very deep concealing holster. It's called the smart carry holster. You ever wear one or know someone who has? |
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Evan
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Posted - February 13 2008 : 5:08:55 PM
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| I don't watch videos unless they're from Disney. |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
Harold B. Lee
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Matthew Courtney
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - February 13 2008 : 7:51:25 PM
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| I have one and with practice have become fairly proficient drawing with one hand. Cannot reholster without two hands. Cannot access while seated. Conceals compact pistols well. Needs to be in proper position. Limited application as there are many ways to conceal a pistol as well and have it more readily accessible. |
You will never begin in the fight you have planned for. You will begin in the fight the other guy has planned for.
Move in a manner that leads him into your fight should he press his attack.
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Brandon B
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - February 13 2008 : 8:58:57 PM
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| Matthew, what are these many other ways to conceal as well? I'm 150lbs and my G19 hardly conceals in a leather IWB under two thick shirts. I'm new to CC and looking for a way to walk around the beach in shorts and a tank top. It might just be that I need to rock some sweet Hawaiian button ups. |
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Evan
Administrator
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Posted - February 13 2008 : 9:11:11 PM
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concealment is an overworked concept. When I worked for the Feds in Arkansas, our "uniform" was a golf shirt, levi's and boots. Every day I carried a Taurus PT-145 in a DeSantis ankle holster, a Taurus .357 snub in a Kramer paocket holster, and a KT P32 in a back pokcet holster.
On 9/11 I was instructed by my Boss to go to the Armory and draw my .45ACP pistol and my M4. I told him I'd draw the M4, but I didn't think I'd need 4 handguns. He had no idea what I was talking about until I showed him.
No one tumbled to what I was carrying and they would have been horrified in they knew the golf bag in my locker contained a loaded SKS.  |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
Harold B. Lee
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Matthew Courtney
Senior Member
USA
932 Posts |
Posted - February 14 2008 : 2:38:19 PM
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| Swim trunks are when I use mine. |
You will never begin in the fight you have planned for. You will begin in the fight the other guy has planned for.
Move in a manner that leads him into your fight should he press his attack.
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TT
Average Member
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Posted - February 15 2008 : 12:03:05 AM
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I have one. Not to put too fine a point on it, but there can be occasions when the area involved will be scrutinized- I was wearing one at work years ago and was made by a female co-worker (although she did not realize what she had seen)…closest I ever came to having a heart attack. Wear baggy pants. Also the draw is a lot easier if you don’t wear a belt and do wear elastic waistband pants.
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esq_stu
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - February 15 2008 : 07:39:34 AM
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| I don't use mine often, but once in a while, usually with sweats or gym shorts sometimes. One of many different holsters for different occasions. Tight belts make access difficult. |
Kol Tuv (All the best!)
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Evan
Administrator
27508 Posts |
Posted - February 15 2008 : 08:40:46 AM
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| trick holsters are a genuine waste of time |
"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
Harold B. Lee
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rwm
Starting Member
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Posted - February 15 2008 : 1:03:47 PM
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| I don't intend to offend anyone...different strokes for different folks. And, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. But, I could never figure out why they called it "smart" carry. |
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Brandon B
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - February 15 2008 : 2:02:04 PM
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| I've gotta say "Smart Carry" is a slightly better name than "THUNDERWEAR"! |
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Brandon B
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - February 15 2008 : 2:05:03 PM
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trick holsters are a genuine waste of time
Whats the gimmick? Is it just slow to draw? |
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homepcmd
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - February 17 2008 : 12:10:45 AM
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It works for what it is. Deep cover...
I use it when I wear shorts... and sandals... and no shirt. And I do not want to use a waist pack.
With it I can carry a G19... one 17 rnd mag... and also carry other items - including a back up gun - in at least three pockets (do you have any idea how hard it is to find swim shorts with at least three pockets?).
I use that "get up" when boating and such. |
"Criminals do not die by the hands of the law. They die by the hands of other men." - George Bernard Shaw
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Brandon B
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - February 17 2008 : 07:13:47 AM
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I use it when I wear shorts... and sandals... and no shirt. And I do not want to use a waist pack.
Thats what I'm looking for!
One serious question. . . . . . Does your G19 bang the "gang"? |
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Evan
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Posted - February 17 2008 : 07:35:31 AM
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if we're more concerned about making a fashion statement than survival I guess it might be ok, but I've been dressing around the guns since the early 70's having a solid conviction the world is full of evil and wicked people who would do the rest of us harm simply because we try to be decent. My wife still loves me, my grandkids endure my strange sense of humor and my dog hasn't bitten me-yet.
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"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."
Harold B. Lee
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Matthew Courtney
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - February 17 2008 : 10:08:54 AM
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| I found my G-23 a little too large to use with my smart carry. I got a Sig 239 for my max hide-out gun. I have found Winchester Silvertips to be reliable after being repeatedly soaked in swimming pool water. |
You will never begin in the fight you have planned for. You will begin in the fight the other guy has planned for.
Move in a manner that leads him into your fight should he press his attack.
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homepcmd
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - February 17 2008 : 12:40:00 PM
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Originally posted by Brandon B
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I use it when I wear shorts... and sandals... and no shirt. And I do not want to use a waist pack.
Thats what I'm looking for!
One serious question. . . . . . Does your G19 bang the "gang"?
What I did was "practice" wearing it at home until I found how to combine the comfort... security... and "access" to the pistol AND the magazine (the latter sometimes got "stuck" when it was 15 rnd... but 17 rnd and it pulled out better).
And Evan... I understand... please consider that on the beach or even a boat... YOU may stand out if fully dressed in south FL.
Granted in NY or MS... I would wear a "coat" that can probably conceal an SBR - if need be. But in sunny Miami... a lot harder.
Wearing swim trunks with a belt... would STAND OUT a lot more than a "bulge" wearing a smartcarry.
It's a special purpose rig that can work if one is willing to balance - or needs to balance.
I got it since it let me "carry" from the inside of my shorts when a fanny pack was not the right choice. And with BOTH... I can carry TWO full size pistols (if I am willing to deal with weight and comfort)...
And IT is still concealed.
I have also used it in places that woudl "ffreak" if they even thought I carried... and that's when I felt the need to carry more than the K32 in my pocket.
In (three pockets) shorts and sandals... I can carry a G19 (one 17 rnd mag), a K32 with "pocket holster" (one mag other pocket), 1/2 oz FOX pepper spray, one BM or spyderco folder, a cell, my wallet (ID and CCW), and keys.
That is WITHOUT a shirt... or socks... to "conceal" with. And it's adapted to my needs and my environment.
With a shirt (has one pocket) I can carry a pen and pad and anything else that fits and doesn't weigh too much.
THAT is my balance when I need to "dress" that way.
And I don't give up anything in my opinion (not to imply that someone said I did). |
"Criminals do not die by the hands of the law. They die by the hands of other men." - George Bernard Shaw
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elsullo
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - February 22 2008 : 2:36:32 PM
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 For deep concealment of a small auto pistol, consider the unique DeSantis "Popup" holster. It holds a small pistol snugly just below the belt line with only a small lip of the j-hook showing, no shirt needed. Pressing from the outside "pops" the pistol up into your grip..................elsullo  |
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gauchobill
Average Member
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Posted - February 22 2008 : 6:19:49 PM
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I live in South Florida and fish a lot. Carry a stainless Kahr P45 or PM9
in a pocket of my nylon fishing pants. Another great way to do it is in a fanny pack, but get one that doesn't look like a gun fanny pack. Fanny packs are common in Florida, especially during warm weather, and while there is contrary opinion on this board about fanny packs, I don't think they scream "Gun" in Florida. |
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Rexster
New Member
USA
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Posted - February 23 2008 : 4:38:42 PM
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In sunny, humid coastal Texas, not unlike Florida, I have seen police officers in plain clothes wear a small pistol in an IWB holster, at the hip, with a baggy T-shirt tucked in, and the T-shirt bloused a bit so it covers the part of the weapon extending above the waistband. I have done this a few times myself, but with the weapon in the "appendix" position. This seems to be much more accessible than a gimmick crotch holster, IMHO. FWIW, I almost always wear a belt of some kind, even when around the water, because I like something substantial to which to anchor valuable items. As for going shirtless in public, I stopped doing that a long time ago, so I cannot address shirtless carry, and no, I am not overweight.
I only rarely use "fanny pack" rigs, and when I do, it is a one made for a point-and-shoot size camera. I do regularly use a couple of Safepackers, made by The Wilderness. The smaller one I sometimes wear on the belt, and sometimes hand-carry. The larger one, in which I carry a 4" sixgun, is usually slung or carried in-hand. In my urbanized environment, enough men how carry bags, so it blends well. People seem to assume I am carrying a planner or electronic gadget. |
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wolfram
Average Member
USA
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Posted - March 06 2008 : 10:11:40 PM
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I used one to carry a Sig 228 or a Steyr M-40 back when I had one. Back then I worked at a company where I'd frequently pick up boxes off the floor, or I'd get bottles or what not off the lower shelves. The traditional IWB tends to stick out unless you keep your back perfectly straight. Try keeping perfect form after lifting all day and/or lifting an awkward box, and you'll soon appreciate Smart Carry. Smart Carry keeps the gun low enough not to be bothersome when bending over (unlike appendix carry). Appendix carry also just plain gets in the way when you're carrying a large box and it's pressing against the grip. Also, there's no chance of it riding my shirt up or sticking out like behind the hip.
I don't consider Smart Carry ideal for all situations, but there are ones where it works. You can't always dress around the gun, although you should if you can. If my gun had stuck out or rode my shirt up my back, the person that notices might not be understanding. It could be a fellow coworker who doesn't let her kids play with toy guns because "they encourage violence." The police might've gotten called. I definitely would've lost my job, and it would've been interesting explaining to future employers why I was released from my previous job.
My point to all of that is that sometimes some of us do need deep concealment for one reason or another. The "gimmick" holster does come in handy for some situations. If you're a LEO or work in an environment where you don't need one, then cool. But I wouldn't discourage someone without knowing their circumstance.
To answer your question, Brandon, I'm 5'8"/200 lbs. I carried those two above full sized guns without a problem and that was with frequent squatting back then. Just have loose pants. Then again, you should have loose pants anyway regardless of what you carry.
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