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Evan Posted - December 07 2006 : 2:22:17 PM
As a Dad I always loved Christmas

As a cop I dreaded it-it seems we always lost somebody during the holidays.

1. Wear your vest always
2. Always carry a second gun and make sure its accessible to your off hand. Just because your duty weapon was issued to you with three mags doesn't mean you can't go out and buy some more-there is no such thing as too much ammo in a gunfight.
3. search everybody like your life depends on it-it will
4. Have a long gun and extra ammo
5. Be smart and call for backup before it goes down the toilet
6. Handcuff every prisoner with their hands behind their back.
7. Search prisoners a 2nd time in the lockup before you unhandcuff them
8. Have a backup flashlight and test it before going on the street.
9. Remember people will hate you and will kill you for what you are and what you represent
10. Remember the cemetary is full of nice guys.
11. Have a prayer on your lips and homicide in your heart.
12. Regardless of how things appear-if things don't feel right-they aren't
The Thin Blue Line doesn't need to get thinner-God Bless.
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sheepdog Posted - November 06 2011 : 3:20:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Evan

As a Dad I always loved Christmas

As a cop I dreaded it-it seems we always lost somebody during the holidays.

1. Wear your vest always
2. Always carry a second gun and make sure its accessible to your off hand. Just because your duty weapon was issued to you with three mags doesn't mean you can't go out and buy some more-there is no such thing as too much ammo in a gunfight.
3. search everybody like your life depends on it-it will
4. Have a long gun and extra ammo
5. Be smart and call for backup before it goes down the toilet
6. Handcuff every prisoner with their hands behind their back.
7. Search prisoners a 2nd time in the lockup before you unhandcuff them
8. Have a backup flashlight and test it before going on the street.
9. Remember people will hate you and will kill you for what you are and what you represent
10. Remember the cemetary is full of nice guys.
11. Have a prayer on your lips and homicide in your heart.
12. Regardless of how things appear-if things don't feel right-they aren't
The Thin Blue Line doesn't need to get thinner-God Bless.




...bump for this timeless advice...it's that time of the year again...hearts are full of emotions and more bad than good...y'all be alert and aware...Happy Holidays to the thin Blue Line !!!
aryfrosty Posted - September 08 2011 : 8:56:21 PM
I am happy to see your rule 2. I worked for 25 years in very rural NW Georgia and I was the butt of quite a few jokes about being "overprepared". I carried 4 speedloaders when I carried revolvers and 4 high capacity mags when I used semi-autos. I had an experience in 1971 where having more ammo than my adversary saved my life and that of my back-up. After 15 years of retirement I still lean toward having "enough". I know in big cities you might have back-up close by but "what if...?"
sheepdog Posted - January 24 2011 : 12:00:43 AM
...that little word you put in quotes has killed/injured more officers than anything else in history...I'm old and fat and grey, but when I put my hand on an officer's shoulder and wish him well and safety...I always remind him/her of that deadly word..."routine"...few things are really as they seem or all they appear to be...y'all be ever so careful out there...
bubbinator Posted - January 06 2011 : 01:51:22 AM
All 12 Rules are well spoken, but I feel rule #2 and #4 need more attention and are really chep to enhance. I am from Alexandria, LA and a few years back there were 4 LEOs killed in what started out to be a "routine" search warrant/arrest for some drug suspects. When it was over the APD/Rapides Parish SO/La State Police/ and the FBI and US Marshalls(?)all responded. When the fight ended 4 LEOs were dead, don't know how many BGs died, BUT- ALL THE LEOs ran out of ammo facing AK47s! Resupply by LEOs saved the day. As a State ABC Agt, ex MP/Not SWAT, but a gun guy,(and FireArms Instuctor) I carried thousands of rds in my state car. I had 9mm/40/45/223/308/12ga + guns for them all. Agency had a BYOG policy on long guns-Ruger Mini 14, Kel-Tec SU16C/HK91/Rem 700 HB Varmint 223 were all PFD. Other Instructors were even better equipped with that + StG58 308 FullAuto and multipe long guns. The proof of the pudding in this post is an ABC Agt responded to a 00 call from a AL Trooper with a barricaded pert in a barn, the trooper wa shot in the face with bird shot and blinded. Local PD was on-scene armed w/ 9mms and 12ga. ABC showed up with an M1A 308 and it was on! Homeboy in the wood barn was praying for salvation after the first 20 rd mag of 308 FMJ started making kindling of the old barn.
1917 Posted - January 10 2010 : 4:19:21 PM
Anchorage another gone sadly. Diligence + prayer.
mojo Posted - November 30 2009 : 7:11:03 PM
Bump

Tacoma, WA and Baytown, TX watch your 6.
BobK Posted - November 05 2009 : 9:04:29 PM
Yup, stay safe guys. We already lost one in Seattle. Looks like it was planned.
Evan Posted - November 05 2009 : 8:27:38 PM
Welcome back-it's always safer with you here.
Keith Posted - November 05 2009 : 7:26:28 PM
Armed robberies are starting to spike here and Thanksgiving is still a couple weeks away. Time to keep your head on a swivel, folks.
Glenn Posted - December 01 2008 : 5:28:36 PM
Ace there is a guy at our crime lab who is very adept at determining what weapon was used based upon the diameter of the entrance/ exit wounds on the deceased he can even look at a penatrating wound caused by a edged weapon and once he's consulted with the firearms / tool mark section he can name the object. My Father works at a local hospital and the full moon theory is real because the ER is packed and the cops bring in one high or drunk subject after another, all of them violent. And our coroner here is busy with MVA's , shootings the whole nine yards to put it simply he rarely sleeps more than 5 hours a night on a full moon.
Ace Posted - December 01 2008 : 3:49:03 PM
I have it on good authority that the full moon phenomena is mythical. Somebody said it on one of the 'training film' series, don't remember if it was Bones, NCIS, or one of the CSI's. But anybody who can look at a month-old dead body and tell whether a 9mm, .38 or .357 was the murder weapon hasta be pretty smart! Ace
pistolero Posted - December 01 2008 : 1:41:48 PM
Does anyone know if there has ever been any research on violence and the full moon? Some people may use the full moon for an excuse to act crazy, or is there really something to it?
perrodelucha Posted - November 29 2008 : 9:03:29 PM
there were 4 things that always spelled trouble: a full moon, the first of the month, a long weekend and a holiday. if you ever got all four rolled together ( like a full moon on labor day ) you had your hands full.
Evan Posted - November 29 2008 : 5:18:29 PM
don't remember-probably not.

Remember Detroit is Cleveland without the glitter.
GLV Posted - November 29 2008 : 4:01:27 PM
Evan, was there ever a quiet night in Detroit
Evan Posted - November 29 2008 : 2:57:45 PM
at Homicide we never had a quiet night when the moon was full-never AND the Emergency Rooms were jammed.
revjen45 Posted - November 29 2008 : 11:51:03 AM
Anybody ever notice a correlation between violent incidents and the full moon? Not joking - I have heard this is the case.
Keith Posted - November 26 2008 : 6:11:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Evan


1. Wear your vest always
2. Always carry a second gun and make sure its accessible to your off hand. Just because your duty weapon was issued to you with three mags doesn't mean you can't go out and buy some more-there is no such thing as too much ammo in a gunfight.
3. search everybody like your life depends on it-it will
4. Have a long gun and extra ammo
5. Be smart and call for backup before it goes down the toilet
6. Handcuff every prisoner with their hands behind their back.
7. Search prisoners a 2nd time in the lockup before you unhandcuff them
8. Have a backup flashlight and test it before going on the street.
9. Remember people will hate you and will kill you for what you are and what you represent
10. Remember the cemetary is full of nice guys.
11. Have a prayer on your lips and homicide in your heart.
12. Regardless of how things appear-if things don't feel right-they aren't


13. Remember that cops aren't always the only ones wearing body armor.

We bagged two residential burglars late last night. Both tried to flee, then tried to run down two uniformed officers manning a place on the surrounding perimeter. Officers fired several handgun rounds into the car, blinding the driver with a spray of glass fragments and he veered away and smashed into a parked vehicle.

Both suspects put up a fight when an attempt was made to extract 'em from their car. Had to taze one and shoot and injure the other to gain control. Both had on police-style ballistic vests. Obviously lookin' for a fight. Both had handguns ready to hand.

Who says house burglars aren't dangerous?
elalumno Posted - June 25 2008 : 10:16:54 AM
An excellent list and points I have tried to live by/with as well as instill in the new guys and gals.

I will somewhat sheepishly admit I have violated my own advice from time to time because of what I see as one of our most silent and deadly enemies. That is complacency. Getting into that tired and true routine and not paying attention. And every time I found myself getting complacent, I thanked God it didnt' kill/hurt me and worked harder at combating it.
Evan Posted - April 27 2008 : 06:08:24 AM
my searches were always thorough and intrusive.

When we got them into the lockup and before we took the cuffs off, my partner would search him again.
duke wellington Posted - April 26 2008 : 8:59:15 PM
Exactly Evan that's why you always cuff the subjects hands behind their back even if it's an old lady /old man because they can kill you just as quick as a younger person can. Also conducting a brief pat down search before hand is equally as important because who knows where the suspect might be hiding something.
Evan Posted - April 26 2008 : 07:29:09 AM
I told a class of students, "You handcuff me with my hands in front of me and I'll guarantee you I can kill you."
duke wellington Posted - April 25 2008 : 9:04:26 PM
Love isn't the tie that binds it's a half pound of cold steel cuffing is a number one priority . Before initiating any search the subject should be cuffed that way he/she isn't free to use their hands to reach for a weapon you don't know is there. Especially at night with some one who is intoxicated
sheepdog Posted - June 14 2007 : 12:05:39 AM
Many moons ago, I wish I had had some concise info like that...when I became a training officer, I focused my chicks on just that-staying alive and realizing the bad guys would hurt them just because of the authority they represented...backup guns(forbidden to our dept.) extra ammo, 4 sets of cuffs, the first Second Chance on my dept., speedloaders, a Prosecutor, I got a lot of ribbing...and I was ready help or not to do whatever it took...and taught them the same...the longer they were on the street, the more of my crazy ideas they adopted (in a time where you bought your own "extra" equipment out of the whopping $500 a month salary...and always the off duty preparedness rant...I had one rookie beaten by a shoplifter who wasn't impressed by the pocket badge he tried to arrest him with...and no gun and no cuffs....he sported a black eye for weeks...and got a model 60 within 24 hours that he couldn't afford for the 4 preceding months...keep on tellin' em, Evan, and the ones who'll listen and believe will become old fat grandfathers someday...and hopefully pass down your words...which would benefit CCW civilians, as well....
Stingray Posted - March 09 2007 : 5:48:09 PM
In my workout room, is a sign that reads: "Somewhere, someone is training to kill you. Still wanna quit?" This is one of the things I use for motivation, when I am too tired, or don't want to work out.

There is a thought from the first street survival book that goes something like this: how many people could have had me today, if they had tried. And what would I have done, if they had?

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